Rahmat Wibowo recounted being wrongfully terminated twice by AWS and Liven, accusing foreign managers and HR structures of enacting 'crab mentality' to suppress rising Indonesian professionals, framing his ordeal as systemic sabotage disguised as compliant HR processes.
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| Source | Rahmat Wibowo LinkedIn |
| Targets | Dinda Rhapsodya |

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Bucket
The Crab Bucket -:
Has No Borders
Story Of HRBP
Dinda Rhapsodya
and Dian Hamama
Crab Mentality, Indonesian Workplaces,
and the Hidden Cost of Pulling Others
Down
“If | cannot have it, neither can you." The
most destructive sentence in the
Indonesian professional vocabulary is
never spoken aloud. It is simply enacted,
one blocked career at a time."
A Personal Note Before We Begin
| was wrongfully terminated. Twice.
Once from a globally recognized cloud
provider Amazon Web Services (AWS) .
Once from a tech company Liven with
an HRBP structure that was supposed to
protect people like me. In both cases,
my direct manager was a foreigner,
someone who had no cultural, social, or
personal relationship with me beyond
what the employment contract required.
There were no shared meals. No mutual
networks. No informal loyalty. Only the
professional relationship as defined by
law.
And yet the decisions made against me
bore every hallmark of what
organizational psychologists and
communication researchers now
formally call "crab mentality." Not
because | performed poorly. Not
because | violated policy. But because |
was visible. Because | was growing.
Because someone, somewhere, decided
that a rising Indonesian professional was
a threat rather than an asset.
I share this not for sympathy. | share this
because my story is not unique. It is
systemic. And if you are a professional in
Indonesia, there is a real probability that
you have either experienced this,
witnessed it, or, without knowing it,
participated in it yourself.
This article is a deep dive into what crab
mentality is, why it is especially
pronounced in Indonesian professional
culture, how it manifests in the
workplace including through
management structures and HR
functions, and what we, individually and
collectively, can do about it.
What Is Crab Mentality? Defining the
Phenomenon
The term "crab mentality" is drawn from
an observable natural behavior: when
multiple crabs are placed in an open
bucket, none of them escape, because
every time one crab begins to climb
toward freedom, the others pull it back
down. No lid is needed. The crabs
themselves become the mechanism of
collective imprisonment.
As a metaphor for human behavior, crab
mentality describes the tendency of
individuals within a group to undermine,
obstruct, or sabotage the progress of a
peer who is succeeding or attempting to
succeed. The underlying logic is
captured in a single destructive phrase:
"If | cannot have it, neither can you."
Grab mentality is not a defect of the poor or uneducated.
It thrives in corporate boardrooms. It thrives in
‘multinational HR departments. It thrives wherever
insecurity meets proximity to someone else's success.
Psychologically, crab mentality is fueled
by a powerful psychological barrier:
limiting beliefs. The most common is a
false belief in scarcity, or what
psychologists call zero-sum thinking,
the incorrect belief that one person's
success must come at the expense of
others. This cognitive distortion
transforms colleagues into rivals and
organizational peers into existential
threats.
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Meta-analytic reviews of envy link
heightened malicious responses to
perceived inequities more strongly in
resource-constrained environments,
where individuals exhibit elevated rates
of schadenfreude and sabotage toward
outperformers. However, the
phenomenon persists universally, with
evolutionary psychology attributing it to
adaptive mechanisms for social leveling
that operate irrespective of class, as
high socioeconomic groups display
similar patterns in competitive
hierarchies.
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The Indonesian Context: Why "Mental
Kepiting" Is More Than a Phrase
In Indonesia, crab mentality is
colloquially known as "mental kepiting."
The phrase is so embedded in everyday
professional discourse that it has
entered the vocabulary of journalists, HR
practitioners, management consultants,
and university researchers alike.
The answer to why it is so prevalent lies
at the intersection of cultural history,
economic structure, and organizational
dynamics specific to the Indonesian
context.
2.1 Collective Culture and the Pressure of
Social Leveling
Indonesia is, at its core, a collectivist
society. The values of gotong royong
(mutual cooperation) and rukun (social
harmony) are deeply embedded in the
national ethos. These values, when
functioning healthily, produce
remarkable solidarity and community
resilience. But when they are distorted
by insecurity, they produce their dark
mirror: the compulsion to ensure that no
individual rises too visibly above the
group.
Social leveling is a well-documented
phenomenon in collectivist cultures. The
logic is implicit but powerful: your
extraordinary success is a social
disruption. It creates distance between
you and your peers. It challenges the
shared narrative that "we are all the
same." And in environments where
collective identity is paramount, the
individual who breaks rank is often seen
not as an inspiration but as a betrayal.
This does not mean Indonesian culture
is inherently sabotage-prone. It means
that without intentional structural
safeguards, the collectivist impulse can
be weaponized by insecure actors who
dress up their envy as concern for group
cohesion.
2.2. The Scarcity Economy and the
Competition for Limited Opportunity
Crab mentality often emerges in
communities or environments where
opportunities feel limited. It is rooted in
insecurity, fear, and scarcity thinking.
Indonesia, despite its remarkable
economic growth over the past two
decades, remains a country where high-
quality professional opportunities are
concentrated in a relatively small
number of companies and cities.
Jakarta, Bandung, and Surabaya absorb
a disproportionate share of the formal
economy. The top tier of corporate
employment, especially in multinational
technology companies, consulting firms,
and financial institutions, represents a
narrow gateway through which millions
of qualified candidates compete.
This structural scarcity is not imagined.
It is real. And it creates conditions where
the advancement of one peer genuinely
can feel like the closing of a door for
another. When the bucket is small and
the opportunities few, the crab instinct
intensifies.
2.3: Research Evidence: Bandung and
Papua Studies
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Isolation. Mistrust. Alienation. These are
not abstract organizational outcomes.
These are the lived experiences of
talented Indonesians who dared to
develop themselves and were punished
for it.
How Crab Mentality Operates in the
Corporate Workplace
Understanding the theoretical
foundations of crab mentality is one
thing. Recognizing how it actually
operates inside organizations, including
sophisticated multinational corporations,
is another.
In the workplace, crab mentality exists
as a toxic behavior pattern driven by
envy, insecurity, and a scarcity mindset.
It fosters an "Us vs. Them" mentality
where peers are viewed as rivals rather
than collaborators, creating division and
distrust. Research found that workplace
envy was strongly linked to social
undermining, behaviors intended to
hinder another's success or well-being.
These subtle actions silently destroy
collaboration.
The behavioral signatures of crab
mentality in a corporate context include
the following:
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The Foreign Manager Dimension: Power
Without Cultural Accountability
This dimension of crab mentality is
rarely discussed openly, yet it is among
the most consequential in the
Indonesian multinational corporate
context.
When an Indonesian employee reports
to a foreign manager, the normal social
accountability structures that might
restrain crab mentality behavior are
largely absent. A foreign manager
typically has no shared community ties
with the Indonesian subordinate. They
are not part of the same alumni network,
neighborhood, or religious community.
They will not encounter the terminated
employee at a family gathering or
neighborhood mosque. The social cost
of wrongful conduct is effectively zero.
The dynamic is not necessarily one of
deliberate racial or ethnic discrimination.
More often, it is a structural alignment
problem: a foreign manager, themselves
facing performance pressure, perceives
a high-performing local employee as a
complexity they cannot fully manage or
control.
The result is a form of workplace crab
mentality that is institutionally laundered
through formal HR processes, producing
a termination that looks procedurally
correct from a compliance perspective
but is fundamentally an act of
suppression.
| pursued legal remedies. | documented
everything. | filed reports. Because when
the crab bucket uses corporate
paperwork as its walls, the only way out
is through the legal system and through
the court of public record.
The Organizational Cost of Crab Mentality
Crab mentality is not simply a personal
injustice. It is a strategic liability for
organizations.
Stifled Reduced Burned
For organizations operating in Indonesia
specifically, the cost extends further.
When talented local professionals are
suppressed, their knowledge, networks,
and contextual understanding, all of
which are critical competitive
advantages in a complex market like
Indonesia, are lost to the organization.
The company does not just lose a
person. It loses the irreplaceable social
capital that person carried.
Indonesia's digital and technology
sectors are growing rapidly. The demand
for skilled, bilingual, technically
sophisticated professionals with deep
local market understanding far outstrips
the supply. Organizations that allow crab
mentality to govern their talent
management decisions are burning a
scarce and irreplaceable resource.
What Must Change: Individual,
Organizational, and Systemic
6.1 Individual Level: Self-Awareness and
the Abundance Shift
The first obligation belongs to each of
us. Shifting from scarcity to abundance
thinking is crucial for overcoming crab
mentality. Mindfulness practices and
regular self-reflection can help identify
these patterns before they become
destructive behaviors.
Ask yourself: When a colleague
succeeds, is your first emotion pride or
threat? When someone in your
professional circle advances faster, do
you wonder what you can learn from
them, or do you look for reasons why
they did not deserve it?
These are not comfortable questions.
But they are honest ones. And the
willingness to ask them honestly is the
beginning of escaping the bucket.
6.2 Organizational Level: Structural
Safeguards Against Capture
Organizations operating in Indonesia
need to implement specific structural
safeguards:
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6.3. Systemic Level: Legal Enforcement
and Public Accountability
Indonesian labor law is actually well-
constructed. The problem is not the law.
The problem is enforcement and
awareness. Many Indonesian employees
do not know their rights under Law No.
13 of 2003, as amended by the Job
Creation Law, or under Government
Regulation No. 35 of 2021. Many do not
know that discrimination-based
terminations are explicitly prohibited and
legally challengeable.
Public documentation matters too.
Sharing experiences, naming patterns,
and building a body of professional
public recordted to about these
dynamics is not grievance theater. It is a
form of systemic accountability that
complements formal legal remedies.
Dedicated to :
Dinda Auchterin Rhapsodya (Dinda
Rhapsodya) from Liven
sty term
Dinda Hamama from Amazon Web
Services (AWS)
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