Rahmat Wibowo challenged Liven and its co-CEOs to name which country's law would let them sue him for defamation, citing Australian and Indonesian statutes, and accused them of using SLAPP tactics and misusing investor funds, attempting to deter legitimate legal action against him.
| ID | ev-20260603-004 |
|---|---|
| Source | Rahmat Wibowo LinkedIn |
| Targets | Shahrooz Chowdhury |

Transcript
So Ihave a genuine question for my network.
If a company like Liven (PT Nomnie
Technologies Indonesia) or the people
behind it the duo co ceo Shahrooz
Chowdhury and William Wong believes they
can sue me for defamation, | want them to
answer this clearly:
Under which country's law, exactly?
Let us go through the options together.
AUSTRALIA:
Under Section 9, Defamation Act 2005 --
corporations with 10 or more employees have
NO standing to sue for defamation. Zero. The
law was written specifically to stop wealthy
companies from silencing individuals through
litigation.
If the Australian parent entity tries to file ~~
the case gets dismissed before it begins.
INDONESIA:
Under Pasal 433 KUHP No. 1 Tahun 2023
and Mahkamah Konstitusi Putusan No.
105/PUU-XxIl/2024,corporations,
institutions, and badan hukum CANNOT file
criminal defamation complaints. Only orang
perseorangan (natural persons) can.
So which country? Name one. | am genuinely
asking
Now here is what | want my network to think
about.
There are really only three explanations for a
company that still threatens defamation
action after all of the above:
ONE -- They have very good lawyers and a
lot of money, and they are betting they can
bend the rules, exhaust the process, and
make the cost of fighting back greater than
the cost of staying silent. This is a
documented litigation strategy. It has a
name: SLAPP -- Strategic Lawsuit Against
Public Participation. It is designed to
intimidate, not to win.
TWO -- They are misusing investor funds.
Legal action against a former employee for
speaking truthfully is not a legitimate
business expense. It is not protecting the
company. It is protecting the ego of the
people running it. Every rupiah or dollar
spent pursuing that is a rupiah or dollar that
came from investors who believed in a
product roadmap -- not a vendetta.
THREE -- They simply do not know the law.
The legal landscape in both Australia and
Indonesia has shifted significantly in 2024
and 2025, a company that does not
understand the legal environment it operates
in is a company that should be on your
blacklist as an employer, a partner, and an
investment.
[am not afraid of this conversation.
Truth does not become defamation because
powerful people find it inconvenient.
To anyone in tech, startup, or investment
circles evaluating companies in the
Indonesian and Australian market:
‘Ask them what they do when a former
employee speaks about their experience.
The answer tells you everything.
Rahmatan lil alamin,
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